Baby dies after taking 'natural' cold medicine, Seattle mother sues manufacturer
Hyland's is in the news again, this time after the death of a baby.
KIRO 7 in Seattle reports that Tanessa Desranleau lost her 13-month-old son, Jay'Breon, after his father's girlfriend gave him Hyland's cold tablets, which are touted to be "all natural." Now, the mother is suing the company because the active ingrediet in the tablets, gelsemium sempervirens, is a known toxin. Now the mother is suing Hyland's, saying that the company is responsible.
Last September, the Food and Drug Administration warned consumers to stop taking Hyland's teething tablets, which contain belladonna, while it investigates reports that they can cause seizures and other health problems, as well as claims that up to 10 children may have died after taking the homeopathic remedy. Hyland's agreed to remove the teething tablets from U.S. stores, but the FDA has not weighed in on Hyland's cold tablets.
Like a lot of mothers to young children, I like "natural" products made of beeswax and coconut and fairy wings, but I'm not a fan of homeopathy. Per homeopathy's principles, the active ingredient in whatever "medication" being made needs to be diluted to the point where it's basically - literally - non-existent. I have a hard time believing this does anything for treating illness or discomfort because I don't believe in "water memory." I have a feeling that Hyland's doesn't really believe this, either, so they're putting a lot more of the active ingredient in their products than they list on the labels.
Belladonna or gelsemium sempervirens diluted to the point of not existing are not dangerous (nothing is). Belladonna or gelsemium sempervirens at much, much, much higher doses are well-known poisons. We have no idea if the baby in this news story really died because of his cold medicine, but we also have no idea how much literal poison Hyland's is putting into their product.
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So if "the active ingredient
So if "the active ingredient in whatever "medication" being made" is "diluted to the point where it's basically - literally - non-existent," how could this product be responsible for a death? Also, Gelsemium sempervirens may contein toxic components, and thus is toxic, but not necessarily a "toxin."
Homeopathics
The rampant ignorance about, and witch hunting of, homeopathics rages on; yet another example.
Homeopathetic Remedies
There is no need for anyone to waste time on a "witch hunt". Deadly results or a complete lack of results ultimately reveals the truth. Have some echinacea tea and relax. 😂
Hyland' s Natural Cold Rememdy
No sense in anyone speculating or throwing stones. Either they did a toxicology study on the deceased, or they did not. If they did not, then there was no crime, because there is no evidence. In that case, the culpable parties are the (not thorough enough) investigators.
Uhok
Shouldnt the question be WHY ARE THEY PUTTING TOXINS, CARCINOGENS, HEAVY METALS AND RANDOM OTHER POISONS IN OUR BABIES MOUTHS CLAIMING SAFETY?!!
WHY ARE THEY PUTTING TOXINS, CARCINOGENS, HEAVY METALS AND RANDO
Some drugs do contain varying levels of "TOXINS, CARCINOGENS" etc ... Remember - poison is in the dose.1
Hyland's homeopathic teething tabs
SMH
you OBVIOUSLY have ZERO knowledge of what homeopathic medicine is or how it works. it is not even possible for that baby to have died from that. NONE ZERO ZILCH this is a sue happy country, expecially the 'victim card carriers' who sue anyone they can for all the wrong reasons.
Homeopathy
Homeopathic formulations are compounded from material substances in varying strength. For instance, a toxin such as arsenic is diluted by taking 1 milligram and mixing it with 10 milligrams of lactose and shaking it (sucussing ) 0nce. Then 1 milligram of this powder is mixed with 10 milligrams of lactose and shaking it once. And so on. After doing this process 12 times we get a substance which is called arsenicum 12X which by avogadro's number contains no detectible arsenic. This process can be further compounded to create 20X, 30X etc. This can also be done in a dilution of 1:100 and is called a centsesimal dilution and is labeled 1C for the first dilution up to as many times as needed up to 200C, 1M(million) , 10M , etc. There are other formulae for dilutions such as LM, etc. Suffice it to say that potencies beliw 12X may contain a material dose of the original substance and can be harmful to infants and certain susceptible persons.Homeopathy is much safer and more effective that western medicines, all of which can be deadly , even aspirin.A potentized substance cures what the material substance would cause. The basis of homeopathy is "like cures like" .The higher the dilutions, the stronger the medicine becomes because it works energetically in the body not like western drugs which all have side effects and make big pharma billions of dollars while killing people. Witness Zantac, humira, acetominiphen, etc.
Homeopathic Pseudoscience
First, beware of anyone offering medical advice who cannot spell "acetaminophen."
Second, simply because something claims to be "all natural" does not make it safe. Botulism, too, is "all natural."
Belladonna is a homeopathic anticholinergic derived from a plant known as Deadly Nightshade. Don't trust homeopathic dilutions and just don't give it to kids.
Re: Homeopathic Pseudoscience
Funny that you bring up botulism as an example of an unsafe natural product. Botulism is the disease. Clostridium botulinum is the bacteria which is also the, checks notes, toxin that makes up the product known as Botox. Hence why they always ask you if you've had antibiotics before injecting you--antibiotics will render it ineffective.
Hylands
Hyland
You know what else kills babies and adults?
All the things we get vaccinated for hence why vaccines were created.. you're so ignorant
baby dies fromOTC med
Why dont you believe the baby died from the med? Do you belive the mom just made up some wild story that her baby died? This is very painful as a parent to lose a child at any age especially your baby. Some people have no compassion for other individuals regardless if the baby died from the meds the famly lost a child. You will never understand utill it hits home one of your own.
parental resposibility
Why would you give you baby anything without researching it,,You might have seen there was issue with this "natural cold medicine"..Why is it always somebody else's fault and the parent's responsibility is waved. You are the steward of the child..He can only count on you..You messed up by not being diligent in what you are giving your child.
Baby dies from homeopathic med.
Read the story again. The mother did not give it to the child. The girlfriend of the childs father did. And that doesn't mean the father even knew about it. Some people don't realize that homeopathic remedies are also dosed differently for children than they are for adults, just like FDA regulated medicines. Maybe the woman didn't realize and gave the same dosage as she would have taken herself.
baby died after natural meds
Medicine
My boys are well into their 20s now. When they were young I was always nervous about giving them any medicine, Even medicine prescribed by a doctor.
Baby dies after taking "natural" cold medicine
Did the autopsy say the cause of death was poisoning, or was it caused by a pathogen that caused epiglottitus, tracheaitis, bronchitis, pneumonia, etc? I suspect it's the latter. Some of these respiratory infections fulminate very rapidly, and OTC medicines do not have any effect on them (positive or negative).
homeopathy
You people are all sheep if you think an FDA regulation makes anything safe. All FDA does is help make Big Pharma rich. Of course they wouldn't put something toxic in any product knowingly, although accidents do sometimes happen, just as with recalls on other products. However, homeopathy is very safe with a very long history of use in humans -- longer than your 'normal' accepted, FDA approved medicines. This is merely ignorance and scapegoat hunting.
Homeopathic Medicines
In reply to "homeopathy" - Homepathic medicines are not regulated by the FDA. To say homepathy is very safe, is categorizing a lot of products and practices under one canopy, calling it safe. Unless you personally know what goes in a mixture or tonic, the effects it has on different ages, the correct ingredients, how they correspond together, and the correct dosage, and rule out any allergic reaction, you should not be administering it.
Americans have brain worms
Homeopathy is just another example of brain rot. This country is filled with complete idiots that are so self-assured of how much smarter than they are than others that they'll willfully poison children or let children suffer. Zero of these people have any education that would make even make them qualified to interpret medical research, much less conduct even the most basic research of their own, but they'll watch their kids suffer and perhaps die while masturbating to their own image and shouting "Do yOuR OwN rEseArCh!!!!! REEEEEE!!!!" Complete narcissistic idiots enabled and emboldened by a culture of unwarranted exceptionalism.
That response was awesome
Couldn't have said it better myself
brain worms comment
I concur
Looking for Humanity and Common Sense
I totally agree that some Americans have brain worms. The worms have burrowed through their brains and caused them to function at a middle school level; lacking basic common sense.
Homeopathics
I have many times used Hylands myself and am a fan of their products. It's funny that I don't see a single comment on concern of what is in all the VACCINES you give your kids. Ever read a list of all the poisons in those? Ever bothered to look? The person above who stated all the FDA does is make the pharmaceutical companies rich is 100% correct. AND I agree with whoever said the baby probably died from a "vaccine". You people are still SHEEP blindly trusting the FDA and your government and the news for that matter. When are you going to WAKE UP???
Homeopathic remedies are more safe than any "Pharma drugs"
Homeopathics (like cures like) are safe and effective, have been around longer than the snakes of A M A & "Big Pharma"
Look it up...there were more Homeopathic doctors and hospitals in this country and the world until the Greedy "elite" got involved.
FDA
One thing for everyone to become aware of is that the words FDA and safety have no relation to one another. Many years ago, one ceased to become synonymous with the other. READ "The Real Anthony Fauci" by Robert Kennedy, Jr.
In the unlikely event that the medicine did trigger the death
It's because of some existing condition in the person that got triggered by the medicine. The person who dies would have to be very messed up to begin with. If the medicine did trigger the death, it only proves that homeopathy does do something. Either it is so diluted to the point that it doesn't do anything as people say, or it does do something. It can't be both ways at the same time.
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